
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure thing, Japan. Whatever you say!
fail lol
I would like to see the reception in China.
expect major nationalist rage…
1931 was the date o
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukden_Incident
I wonder if the heroes will have something to do with that
@ewok
When this show was first coming out, I saw the 1931 date was like “Wait, that’s when Japan invaded Manchuria (and can be argued, when WW2 REALLY began)…” Maybe, MAAAAAAAAAAAAYBE if they set this in the Taishou era they could’ve gotten away with this, but the year that they invade China? No. Fucking. Way.
@Miken
Hahaha yeah, I’ve read plenty of people saying things like “You know that screechy violin right before the first person speaks in Chinese? Yeah, that’s what the Chinese sounds like.”
I have to say…while I sorta liked the episode, lines like those kinda made me go “huh” and then made somewhat frustrated. Of course, this was the obvious turn of events given the setting of the anime and A-1 Productions being Japanese. Can’t say I’m not disappointed though. -_-;;
Also: the horrible Mandarin was very awkward and more funny than I think it was supposed to be. XD;;
the chinese in the anime was surprisingly accurate. being a s’porean who has lived in shanghai for 5 years, it sounded quite china chinese to me. that is, apart from the chinese of the main characters i mean, that can’t be helped though (they’re japanese). i think like higashi no eden, they got proper chinese people to voice the sub chinese characters like they got english ppl in hne. apart from the accuracy, the language used was also quite relatively advanced for an anime. i mean, usually its onli a ni-hao rite?
THE CHINESE WAS EAR CANCER. The baddies had more understandable chinese than the protags, lolol. So the bad guys sounded way more professional while the protags had shitty rebuttals and lines even though they were worded better.
Revisionist comedic anime propaganda of the century!
Their mandarin is terrible. However, this propaganda gives me something to show to my AP US History/AP World History teacher.
You do know that “stability and prosperity of East Asia” was the actual Japanese propaganda *during the time the show takes place*, right?
Seeing how corrupt and/or manipulative the Japanese were in this episode (aside of the main characters) I don’t know how you can see this as revisionism.
Sure, it’s not impossible that the anime will go the revisionism way, but that didn’t happen in this episode.
(Also, in the first screencap the translation is off. He didn’t say anything about alliances.)
@barak
It can be revisionist in one of two ways. The first is if they take those lines sincerely and not as a bit of Orwellian doublespeak. The second is that they could set things up in the show so that the Sakura Kikan are ROW ROW FIGHTING THA POWA, by being like “Oh all that badness in WW2 was just the work of a group of bad apples that everyone knew was wrong and we tried to stop!” The latter is the kind of revisionism that we get from stuff like Zipang, and in a way, Grave of the Fireflies.
(and I have noooooooo idea why the spam filter thought your posts were spam, weird.)
Only the Brotherhood of Nod will bring peace!
Peace through power!
1. I’m pretty open minded about revisionist fictional entertainment about a dark era in human history. But this is kind of…boring. In fact without that meta stuff (like the horrible mandarin) this show has less chikara than sorawoto.
2. I don’t mind if they go Zipang or whatever. or not, even. But they’re treading dangerous territory so my expectations are already set appropriately.
>jpmeyer
Seeing that the guy in the hat admitted that Sakura kikan was working to further Japan’s interests I don’t think they’re working against the establishment. And so far we don’t know whether he actually believes the propaganda or was just using double speak. Obviously the main characters will be good guys and will end up fighting against “all that badness” but so far Japan hasn’t been portrayed as squeaky clean and I think it’s very early to accuse the series of revisionism.
The Chinese only really mattered to me in the sense that if spies are speaking a language with an obviously terrible accent, their cover will be blown really quickly. Think the bar scene in Inglourious Basterds.
@barack
Another one just popped into my head: It is quite true that Japan most certainly is not being portrayed as squeaky clean or anything. The problem, however is just how they are being shown as not being squeaky clean. Obviously, shady arms deals are kind of bad, but it’s such a low bar for badness that it’s laughably insignificant compared to the badness that actually went on that it feels like a sleight of hand kind of way of admitting to guilt, like practically a “I’m sorry that you’re offended” apology.
the chinese was not ear cancer in my opinion. just close one eye and be less judgmental. after all, you can’t expect perfect chinese from a japanese person right. well, for seiyuus anyway. but yeah, i still think the sub characters inclusive of the baddies did a gd job of the chinese.
and yes, though i’m quite pro-japanese, i dun like wat the japanese gov. and maybe this anime is doing with the whole revisionism thing like wiping out wat they did in WW2. my grandmother told me once how she nearly got killed by a japanese soldier when she was a small girl. apparently the soldier threw her mid-air and tried to spear her with a bayonet (??, not sure if that’s the right name).
lol, that’s what I wanted to know.
The whole time I was like, “Wait, how can they not know they aren’t soldiers?”
>jpmeyer
Er, double-dealing arms dealer guy aside, the guy in the hat basically admitted that Sakura kikan was essentially manipulating the power balance in China. The Liu organization was anti-Kuomintang and Japan, backing the KMT for their own purposes, helped the KMT to bring them down. The hat guy also said that people who witnessed the agents’ powers (ie. Chinese soldiers, etc.) were to be eliminated. Sure, it’s still not Rape of Nanking level, but if you think about it, it’s not exactly something insignificant. (And at the time the story takes place Japan haven’t invaded China yet, anyway.)
And really… this was just the first episode. It was basically about “Here are our heroes and they have superpowers. Watch the next episode.” As I said, it *may* end up being revisionist, but so far I don’t see it.
>> The Chinese only really mattered to me in the sense that if spies are speaking a language with an obviously terrible accent, their cover will be blown really quickly. Think the bar scene in Inglourious Basterds.
Good point. In that sense, they are suppose to be Japanese, so they are suppose to have terrible Chinese.
zomg.
Well, for what I know we can have a “good team of agents discovers their superiors warmongering and gets A-teamed” – remember the Sora no woto? Only without happy ending because this is real life…
My granddad watched this and had a heart attack.
I want to see what Germany thinks of this?
Probably not like this:
http://www.thelocal.de/lifestyle/20090821-21413.html
(Imagine if a film in Japan had a scene like that!)
Re-writing the Textbooks: Revisionism in Senkou no Night Raid? « GAR GAR Stegosaurus – still waiting for that fourth season of Jigoku Shoujo
revisionistとか propagandaとか言ってる奴は何のつもり?
だったら見るなよムカつくな
これ外国で放送した憶えないんだけど
ちょw 外国の冗談分からないのはお前が悪いんだよ (=゚з゚=)
2chに帰れ。
。。てか私このアニメ見てない興味ないけどねw
Hey JPMeyer, just in case you hadn’t heard, the first incomplete patch for Muv-Luv (DVD-ROM edition) has been released. Here’s the relevant link: http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/blog/?p=400
I know this is off-topic, but hopefully Muv-Luv is still relevant to your interests…
At this point, what I care about more is seeing people’s reactions after playing Oruta!
btw, is it me or the boss-ojisan is really like the coordinator from Claymore?
hinanoさん
返答ありがと
これ冗談なのか?
だったらいいんだが、この間ちょうどこのアニメのことで中国人とやれ歴史がどうたらとか日本帝国のプロパガンタだとかやりあったか腹がたってたんだよ。
悪くおもわんでくれ
中国人かw そうか。
いやJPはよくこういう冗談日記書くんだから気にしないでね
深い意味ないから
hinanoさん
オォ、仕事速いね
しかし「閃光のナイトレイド」について探していたら面白いブログみつけたな。
たまにあそびに来させてもらうことにしよう。