First, a story. When I was at college at CWRU, possibly the most famous student at the school was DARTH-SCSI. DARTH-SCSI hosted an enormous porn server on the network, with the legend saying that it was hosted one of the computers in the Olin lab. He was so infamous that even though he graduated in 2002, there was “DARTH-SCSI Appreciation Day” during orientation even in 2006, long after anyone who would’ve been at school at the same time as he would have graduated.

this picture is entirely so that i can tag this post with "gilfs"
Why am I telling this story? Well, Gonzo has had an annoying habit of making small changes to the anime that the adapt from other sources. While they are small or subtle, they can start to add up and blow up later on. My personal favorite example is from Welcome to the NHK. In the manga, Sato becomes obsessed with loli porn. In the anime, it’s just porn. In the manga, the fact that he fills up hundreds of gigs of hard drive space with loli porn makes him pathetic and despicable. But as the tale of DARTH-SCSI shows, having the same amount of porn porn doesn’t make you a freak. It makes you a legend.
(My second favorite example is how Romeo is supposed to be this playa with an entourage in the Shakespeare version of Romeo and Juliet, while Gonzo makes him emotional and sensitive. That change seems insignificant until you realize that a big aspect of the fact that Romeo is smitten with Juliet comes from the fact that this is such twue wuv that it’s managed to ensnare even a lothario like Romeo. Also, the reason that this is only my second favorite example is because then I don’t get to tell a story about pr0n.)
So what does this have to do with KyoAni? For a long time, I’d thought that the success of a Kyoto Animation anime depended on their ability to adapt their source material. The more straightforward and faithful the adaptation, and the better the source material, the better the anime would turn out. Their Full Metal Panic anime turned out pretty well for this reason, while Kira Star Lucky Chuta Lucky Star was obnoxious. While we’re at it, Haruhi falls into the “good” camp, although with reservations as the whole fractured chronology really felt like a way for them to fill out the season. While auteur theory is full of holes (like that it ignores the fact that film is an industrially produced commodity), nor is it particularly appropriate to use with television, which is centered more on writers and producers, it feels appropriate to classify KyoAni as meteurs en scenes, rather than auteurs; their job is to put things in place
Clannad is turning into a Gonzo-fest. It’s partially sloppy adaptation and partially the difficulty level of adapting such a non-linear game as Clannad. The game of Clannad first has you play through and get a Nagisa bad end, then play through once through each of the other character’s storylines, and then you can finally get the good Nagisa ending. The idea here is basically that your first attempt at having a family fails, so you go through other people’s experiences of family, after which you can finally have a happy family ending.
As I briefly alluded to in my Toei Kanon review, KyoAni sticks one story after another, which has the unfortunate side effect of marginalizing the fact that the story is really supposed to be about Tomoya and Nagisa being a family. The Gonzo-fication part arises from the fact that this adds little bits of cruft to the story that cause time bombs later on. KyoAni is basically left with two options: they can include Nagisa in all of the storylines with Tomoya’s harem (another unfortunate side effect, as the visual novel structure would allow you to interact with just one character at the expense of the others), or they can leave her out like they would in a visual novel path. They chose to include her.
This creates a pair of problems. The first is that Nagisa now has a big circle of friends. It’s hard to have the devastating scene where Nagisa fails to graduate, since the reason it is devastating is because the only person she interacted with at school was Tomoya, so now she’s all alone. The second problem is that either the effects of all of these new interactions need to either be ignored or incorporated into the story. The latter is really too much of a butterfly effect problem, so instead we have to deal with the former and its time bombs.
Finally, there’s the problem that the massive scope of Clannad really marginalizes Nagisa and by extension, her relationship with Tomoya. Why and how exactly are they going out when all we ever really seem to see is Tomoya’s interactions with everyone BUT her? And at the same time, it feels incredibly weird that the story needs to basically require Nagisa to overlook this fact or else we’re back at the butterfly effect issue.
Personally, I don’t really think that Clannad is really adaptable to the standard linear visual novel anime format. The Toei movie version understood this (and only had a small amount of runtime to work with anyway), and made sure to focus on the gist of the game. It’s less “faithful” in the sense that they had to cut out massive amounts of the game and ignore most of the characters, but this allows it to be “faithful” by actually capturing the spirit of the game.
Also, go away Fuuko and Kotomi.
In other words, Clannad is a very wonderful anime. Period.
By: Kairu Ishimaru on December 5, 2008
at 7:50 pm
Yes, basically, Clannad is a very wonderful anime. Period.
By: IcyStorm on December 5, 2008
at 8:23 pm
I don’t think the fact that Nagisa has a good circle of friends in the anime made the whole graduating business lose its impact. After all, most of the girls DID graduate just like Tomoya, while Tomoyo and Yukine will probably be busy enough (with the student council and the reference room respectively) to hang around with Nagisa and be her support at school.
Otherwise, I guess I agree with everything else said in this post. It’s either being faithful to the game structure or changing some stuff in order to make a coherent plot. I think KyoAni kinda screwed up for trying to use both of these alternatives during different parts of the show.
Also, INB4 fanboys OH NO MIGHT BE TOO LATE…!!!
By: Taiyaki on December 5, 2008
at 9:23 pm
CLannad anime is awesome. Period.
By: ka on December 5, 2008
at 9:27 pm
Sheesh, now you’re really poking the hornet’s nest, Hinano :p
By: nazarielle on December 5, 2008
at 9:33 pm
Umm hi I didn’t write this post, although I pretty much agree with everything in it. And looking @ the comments no one but Taiyaki actually read the post (or at least understood its point)
By: Hinano on December 5, 2008
at 9:39 pm
Oh, dammit. I’m not used to there being two authors, this is going to take a while to get used to.
By: nazarielle on December 5, 2008
at 10:01 pm
Haha you need to get the author avatars at the top of each post =D.
By: Kabitzin on December 5, 2008
at 10:35 pm
See, I suggested that but I was told that that suggestion was stupid and gay.
By: jpmeyer on December 5, 2008
at 10:42 pm
It’s not a plugin, it’s not part of our theme and I’m not about to try to figure out how the hell to fit a stupid avatar within all my images
Besides reading the post isn’t it really obvious that I didn’t write it?
By: Hinano on December 5, 2008
at 10:58 pm
In other words, all visual novel to anime adaptations are inherently flawed, because they will all have this same problem to various degrees.
I knew I hated them for a reason!
By: Lupus on December 5, 2008
at 11:11 pm
Well, depends on what you mean by “flawed”, but yeah basically.
By: jpmeyer on December 6, 2008
at 12:00 am
I don’t think the changes kyoani made will reduce the quality of the Clannad anime from an objective view (Not compareing it to the game). Also the change you mentioned about ZOMG NAGISA’S GRADUATION HAS TO BE SAD AND SHE HAS TO BE ALL ALONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNE, isn’t that bad imo. First of all, in the game it’s possible (Somewhat required?) to become friends with Tomoyo. In the game, Tomoyo was just too busy to hang with Nagisa as much. Also in the game she has both Nishina and the choir club as friends. The only real addition of people that remain at school when Nagisa is left behined is Yukine. The anime can still have Nagisa’s last year with a similar mood to the game counterpart. When I viewed that part in the game it was more of a “Nagisa gaining the strength and courage to start again” thing rather then focusing on the OMG SHE’S ALONE IN SCHOOL SO SAD part. At anyrate she has Tomoya when she’s not at school and they even end up living togheter, so it’s not a problem.
There are a few other minor changes, maining involving Nagisa being around when Tomoya completes the other arcs, but I think they were handled pretty well. It’s not like Tomoya ignored Nagisa or anything. Sure the pure Nagisa x Tomoya development was tuned down (WHERE’S DA FIRST KISS ZOMG!?), but I believe it can be covered in the rest of AS.
I wouldn’t go as far as to call KyoAni as a whole a “Gonzo with pretty pics”. Well how much of an insult that is depends on your opinion of Gonzo. Aside from Clannad, which you said was hard to adapt, they have a pretty good record. KyoAni’s changes with Clannad can’t be compared to putting Romeo and Juliet on a floating island ith dragons.
Btw your post sounds like Hinano’s except without the RAAAAAAGERAGE ZOMG WTF? XDD
By: FlameStrike on December 6, 2008
at 12:31 am
Actually I have to admit episode 10 of after story was actually pretty decent and what I had expected AS to be like, rather than the first 9 eps and the latter half of season 1.
However I felt if I posted something good about Clannad it would be in complete irony with this post so I refrained from doing so.
Maybe next week.
By: Hinano on December 6, 2008
at 12:39 am
This is the first and last time in history that “meteurs en scenes” and “auteur” will be used in a post about a KyoAni anime.
By: Owen S on December 6, 2008
at 5:01 am
Romeo spends too much of 1.1 moping to be a proper lothario. But it’s very courtly, constructed moping, so I’m with you on the ‘not-emotional-and-sensitive’ point.
Also, ClannadissogreatRAEGhowdareyouspeakillofit.
By: The Animanachronism on December 6, 2008
at 5:39 am
Episodes 8-9 displayed this really well: both were climactic episodes, but it felt kinda out of place ’cause 8 was the end of an arc, but 9 was..also the end of an arc? It just felt a little strange…but I’mtoolateforILUVCLANNAD
By: lelangir on December 6, 2008
at 12:03 pm
Is this the first time someone is pointing out a flaw in Clannad? The various arcs excite most of the fans because they make the adaptation seem faithful to the original VN; however, I am with you about the fact that it lessens the focus of Nagisa and Tomoya.
While Clannad is still relatively good to watch, I find it somewhat different from the “feel” that it gave me in the first two episodes of the first season after everyone had their little story told. If you ask me, my current enthusiasm as a viewer of the anime show, and I have not played the VN, can be accurately portrayed using the Gaijin 4koma with the excited gaijins preceding the unimpressed gaijins.
By: The Sojourner on December 6, 2008
at 12:57 pm
you obviously either didn’t read or missed my multiple Clannad flame posts in season 1 and 2
By: Hinano on December 6, 2008
at 1:12 pm
Hmmm… I think I am wrong in saying it is a flaw. It is more like an element in the story that is preventing me from enjoying the show as I was doing so for the first few episodes. Guess it is just my own issue.
By: The Sojourner on December 6, 2008
at 1:28 pm
@Hinano
lol. I recall you dubbing Fuuko “Pooko.” That had a really averse affect on me as I have been referring as “Pooko” whenever a friend of mine talks about Clannad with me.
By: The Sojourner on December 6, 2008
at 1:30 pm
Clannad is wonderful.
Hinano wrote this post.
Yes I did read it and agree with it in essence. Big bone to pick: Gonzo actually tries to be an auteur. Kyoani…only when Yamakan is directing.
By: omo on December 6, 2008
at 2:06 pm
Hmm. Further thought: it’s not just his panoply of porn that made DARTH-SCSI a legend, it’s the fact that he shared it. The isolated collector of porn is still a pathetic figure, though less pathetic than the isolated collector of loli porn, while someone who distributes his porn is ‘one of the lads’. It’s a homosocial thing, perhaps.
By: The Animanachronism on December 6, 2008
at 3:48 pm
yes. very much so.
I can’t speak too much to this topic, as I don’t play VNs, although putting this together with lelangir’s post that he linked starts to give me a clearer picture. Even without knowledge of the VN I latched on to the scope issue as well, maybe as the worst problem (at least, the largest problem in an an ideal situation where you actually accept and enjoy Clannad’s style and world).
By: otou-san on December 6, 2008
at 9:13 pm
Objection! Otou-san did not use one of the troll comment structures in his comment.
By: jpmeyer on December 6, 2008
at 9:57 pm
[...] used to Kyoto Animation’s catering to the fanbase of each girl, even if the original story wasn’t supposed to be that way. I expect each girl to get at least a few episodes about her (although Clannad broke [...]
By: To Heart is rather boring | Minimum Tempo on December 13, 2008
at 2:17 am
But jp, you missed out a very important point about Welcome to the NHK.
If they went ahead with the loli porn bit, those episodes would not have gone on air, so…
Also, I’d like to repeat what I said about KyoAni.
Oh, and the cancer that is killing KyoAni? They are too reliant on attention-to-detail. If you read the manga (or played the bloody VN), the quality is almost the same as the animé. While this may be KyoAni’s strongest point, it is also their weakest. Without any form of minor rewrite to the script, they are only able to produce animé that are a bit too faithful to the manga series (or VN). And that’s the cancer that is killing Kyoani.
As much as I LOVE Key, I have to admit that their attention to detail when it comes to adaptation might just undo them. It showed in Lucky Star, and it showed in their Key adaptations (AND YES, CLANNAD HAS THIS ROLL CALL OF CHARACTERS, I HAVE SEEN IT IN KANON AND AIR, I AM NOT SURPRISED THAT THEY DID IT FOR CLANNAD).
Yeah, this is the animation studio that changed a pair of homosexual incest twins into hawt lesbians in FMP: TSR. For pure awesome. SO WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT?
By: drmchsr0 on December 14, 2008
at 6:20 am